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Post by anita on Oct 10, 2011 22:23:36 GMT -5
I got a female to breed later down the road. I sign a contract stating that I would give two puppies back when this girl was old enough to breed. The contract stated the dogs name. Said if said dog had any defects she could be returned. ended up she had a hernia and 3 of 5 vets said it was hereditary and she should be fixed. So I returned the puppy. I ended up with a puppy that was for sale for $300 less than what I paid for the other puppy. No other contracts was singed for this puppy and I did not recieve any money back. Now the breeder wants me to honer the contract I signed for the other dog with this dog.
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Post by John K. on Oct 11, 2011 8:45:04 GMT -5
Anita....eff the breeder.....those contracts don't mean shit. if you signed a contract in your state/country and violated the contract in regards to the breeders requirements, then they have to travel to your state/country to fight the violation....sign all the contracts you want and then do what you want....highly unlikely the breeder would be willing to travel and even less likely they win the case.....
Most breeders that use those contracts are nothing but money grubbers anyway....they don't care about anything other than padding their bank account.
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Post by vitopup on Oct 11, 2011 9:12:34 GMT -5
Breeder contracts are BS normally. I've never liked some of the crap that breeders put in their contracts. If you don't like the contract don't sign it. If you signed a contract, I assume the breeder wants you to hold up your part of the bargain. That's the right thing to do!! Doesn't make it right always on their part, but that's life(breeders). I will never co-own a dog or be held to a contract with a dog. I will not be held down by someone elses contract forcing me to do anything with MY DOG(or puppies). I don't want to start trouble on a public forum, but where did you get the dog from? Sometimes it helps to understand, when you know who you are dealing with. Hope it all works out for you in the end.
Scott
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Post by Apollo on Oct 11, 2011 10:34:13 GMT -5
i co own a dog and i'm happy how it is. first thing you always do read your contract very well, if you arent happy with some in it, talk to the other person and change it. The other question is what are the criterias for breeding your female. Is she health tested or will she be, does she has titles or will she have some in the future. Not every dog is breed worthy. There are enough BYB out there and somehow i get the feeling your breeder isn't one of the responisible ones. I love my breeder, i got what i was asking for and much more, the contract is fair and we both are happy with it. i can go back to her anytime i need her and she became one of my best friends and she is a member on here too. Not every breeder is just in it for the money, the ones who are, are BYB and then i would give nothing about the contract. You really need to do your homework very well. Lots of states got a lemonlaw, maybe check this out. and by the way, welcome to the forum. tell s more about your pup and what your plans are for her and what you are going to do with her.
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Post by donnatoldu2 on Oct 11, 2011 16:01:21 GMT -5
Am I correct in seeing that u signed the contract on a puppy u returned to the breeder because it did not live up to their end of that contract? That pup was replaced with another pup and no new contract was signed? Did the breeder discuss with u transferring the contract to the new pup?
If no dialog took place and the first pup was identified in that contract then u should not have to fulfil that contract thru a replacement pup ..in my opinion. Now not a lawyer in ur State but if this pup is not named in a contract there is no contract to me.
Donna K.
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Post by ciena on Oct 11, 2011 16:08:52 GMT -5
I think a lot of "reputable" breeders are just as in it for the money as byb, but at least they go about it the right way and do care more about the dogs than the byb do. At any rate, you
would think that the contract was for the original dog, and unless specified with a new ammendmant to the original, at the time the second pup was received, you are clear of any
obligations with the second pup.
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Post by anita on Oct 12, 2011 6:37:13 GMT -5
Yes the contract was for the first puppy. It had her name and her parents on it.It also had her birthdate. There was not another contract for this puppy I have now. She is from another litter.She is not co-owen. She is registered in my name only. This puppy I have now is a year and a half. I have no plans of breedering her for another year after all health test are done.
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Post by anita on Oct 12, 2011 6:51:29 GMT -5
Well it did say in the contract that I would get a replacement puppy of breeders choice but I thought that since we did not draw up another contract for this puppy there was no contract. The contract stated that I would not get my money back. If she decided to buy the puppy back it would be half of what I payed for it. So I decided to get another puppy and not loose all that money. The day I picked up my new puppy she told me that the puppy was pretty but did nothing for her. Now since she is grown she looks better than the one I returned. I think that plays a big part in it now.
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Post by vitopup on Oct 12, 2011 9:02:52 GMT -5
As far as I can tell. You aren't under contract anymore. So do what you want. This breeder sounds like an ass!! Do her dogs have a purpose other than looking pretty. Take this as a lesson learned. READ THE CONTRACT!!!!! find a reputable breeder that breeds for the right reasons. Do you plan on working this dog or just showing her in conformation? Health alone doesn't mean that a dog is worth breeding. Not to say
your dog isn't but you are leaving out a lot about this dog. Where is it from? Who are the parents? Does the breeder train and title her dogs?
Scott
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