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Post by Cassie on Jul 14, 2011 7:03:18 GMT -5
Hey,
I was just wondering about how the typical handler goes through the expected fear periods in puppies? I know socialization is VERY important, but does anyone have tips for handling this in puppies?
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Post by John K. on Jul 14, 2011 12:24:59 GMT -5
ignore them....
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Post by Bitten on Jul 14, 2011 16:12:15 GMT -5
Hey, I was just wondering about how the typical handler goes through the expected fear periods in puppies? I know socialization is VERY important, but does anyone have tips for handling this in puppies? Cassie - could you please define "expected fear periods" .... Bitten
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Post by odiakkoh on Jul 14, 2011 19:53:29 GMT -5
According to pet sites the fear period is around 8-12 weeks and then again around 6 months. I'm guessing she means those times?
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Post by Bitten on Jul 15, 2011 6:28:10 GMT -5
Rina ... please post links to the "pet sites" - thank's
Bitten
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Post by Cassie on Jul 15, 2011 7:30:39 GMT -5
Wait a minute I thought working dogs were still pets. Let me explain that a little. Unless they or you are getting paid for their work, the dogs are pets. Highly trained PETS. I'm not saying everyone is a 'pet parent' or whatever the heck those morons are calling themselves, but jeez. I want to say 'get over yourself' but more politely... www.diamondsintheruff.com/developmentalstages.html Payment. Some people believe feeding the dog at the end of the day is paying him. I'll derail my own thread and ask the basic opinion, of is feeding the dog payment? To me it is not as feeding is a basic necessity.
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Post by odiakkoh on Jul 15, 2011 8:16:51 GMT -5
"I want to say 'get over yourself' but more politely..." I hope that attitude wasn't directed at me. Just trying to help. @bitten - Cassie already posted one but if you'd like I could find others
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Post by Cassie on Jul 15, 2011 8:38:12 GMT -5
It wasn't directed towards anyone in particular. I am trying to stir conversation, not put a bullseye on my forehead!
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Post by DeDe on Jul 15, 2011 8:47:51 GMT -5
LOL Cassie! Yes, to some extent, they are all pets. Just very obedient, active, and occasionally destructive with a purpose. And no, I don't consider the days meal as 'payment' as this is a base life necessity for any species.
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Post by boomer on Jul 15, 2011 9:06:10 GMT -5
While that meal may be a necessity also remember that animals in the wild, including dogs or any related species, don't always eat everyday unless they work for it so hence it is a paycheck.
So nobody here has ever withheld a meal the day of or day before tracking to bring the food/hunt drive up? They work the track they find the food...putz around and they don't eat.
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Post by odiakkoh on Jul 15, 2011 9:06:56 GMT -5
Lol you wont find any bullseyes coming from me anyhow. I wont hold a grudge for something that silly
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Post by DeDe on Jul 15, 2011 12:52:02 GMT -5
I tried the 'whithhold food' thing for tracking back many years ago. I found that with a dog that has over the top food drive, I was better off feeding a half portion right before the track to help calm them though. Different techniques for each dog... I guess it all depends on how high the food drive is, and how well then can actually concentrate.
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patrick
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Post by patrick on Jul 16, 2011 9:19:23 GMT -5
I'm confused here....Cas asks about fear periods and all off a sudden it changes to wether or not feed your dog before tracking....
Cassie what John says is true imo.....Avoid the behaviour and act normal as if nothing is happening so since he "thinks" you don't see a reason to panic the dog will think it's ok.....Most people will start to pet and talk, mummy or whatever the dog so in that way he will feel something is not right since you act different.....
I hope I made myself clear...
Grtz from Daxike daddy LOL
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Post by Cassie on Jul 16, 2011 11:45:02 GMT -5
Thanks Pat! BTW...I derailed my own thread. I'm trying to talk over the crickets that seem to have taken over here
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Nellie
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Post by Nellie on Jul 16, 2011 18:51:31 GMT -5
Yep, I agree. You need to ignore the behavior. Or, if you know what it was that spooked the pup encourage the pup to go to it to see it is nothing to be afraid of. I have used a food lure to get them close then I touch whatever it was to show them it is okay. Once the pup reaches forward to sniff whatever it is then is the time to reward them. Up til then just be matter of fact about the whole thing.
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