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Post by dobermanman on Mar 28, 2011 22:30:07 GMT -5
My two Dobermanns Flannchadh vd Barvarienburg and Winterfell Arya managed to pass their K9 Nose Work ORT (Odor Recognition test) yesterday. The test consists of an accurate indication of one of 12 closed boxes that contain the target odor. Normally moderately difficult but this test was complicated by the fact that Arya is in heat and Flann is slightly distracted at the time. Poor Arya was required to wear pink female in heat pants, for her test, which she found distracting (or maybe she was embarrassed? :-) Anyway they are both certified to trial at NW level 1. I can only trial one dog at the June trial (unless they make it a two day trial) and there is a limited entry so they will do a drawing of eligible entrants.
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Post by Vadim on Mar 29, 2011 10:36:05 GMT -5
Congratulations Thomas! Best wishes for continued success.
Any chance you have some pics of the pack or the trial?
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Post by zaxayo on Mar 29, 2011 10:49:54 GMT -5
Congratulations !!
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Post by sonterra on Mar 29, 2011 11:12:31 GMT -5
My two Dobermanns Flannchadh vd Barvarienburg and Winterfell Arya managed to pass their K9 Nose Work ORT (Odor Recognition test) yesterday. The test consists of an accurate indication of one of 12 closed boxes that contain the target odor. Normally moderately difficult but this test was complicated by the fact that Arya is in heat and Flann is slightly distracted at the time. Poor Arya was required to wear pink female in heat pants, for her test, which she found distracting (or maybe she was embarrassed? :-) Anyway they are both certified to trial at NW level 1. I can only trial one dog at the June trial (unless they make it a two day trial) and there is a limited entry so they will do a drawing of eligible entrants. congrats thomas! I love to her about this new sport! Do you have any video of this? I would love to see how the test is structured. Thanks for posting!
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Post by dobermanman on Mar 29, 2011 12:41:46 GMT -5
Hi Tamara
Sorry no video allowed during the test. There were approximately 25 dogs testing and it was one at a time with no one but the Handler/dog and NACSW officials in the room. The ORT is a basic pre trial qualifier There are 12 identical card board boxes set up in two rows of six, maybe 3 ft between boxes and 8 feet between the rows. There is a start line and the timer starts when the dog breaks the line. You have 3 minutes to call an alert. It's YES if you've got the right box and "Fringe" if you're one box away (but still fail) and NO if you're more then one box away.
Hi Vadim
There was a mondio Ring Trainer here to visit a couple of weeks ago that took a bunch of pictures. She's sending me a disc and hopefully I'll figure a way to post some of them :-)
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Post by grabichler on Mar 29, 2011 15:42:56 GMT -5
Huge congrats to you and your two Dobers, Thomas!!
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Post by anneconroy on Mar 29, 2011 18:07:48 GMT -5
Nice job!!
anne
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Post by Gail on Mar 31, 2011 17:47:17 GMT -5
I just went to a seminar on Nose Work this past weekend and am really excited in getting started! It was very interesting to watch, and try and disern what each dogs "tell" or "alert" indicator was.
Can you share what each of your dogs do to indicate the find? I have to tell you some of the dogs were very subtle with a signal if there was one at all
Love this new activity and am looking forward to starting the kids in it! Thanks for sharing!
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Post by dobermanman on Mar 31, 2011 22:00:07 GMT -5
HI Gail,
I'm trying to shape a focused stare indication by rewarding at source. Since both dogs were just a little distracted :-) I called the alert when Flann sat in front of the scent box and when Arya sat and stared at me. The actual NW 1 title requires an box drill (like an ORT) an interior search, an exterior search and a vehicle search. And you must be able to pinpoint source. The trial entries open this weekend and then there will be a drawing of everyone with a qualifying ORT to see who gets to trial in June. I can only do one dog so it's up to the luck of the draw to see which dog I concentrate on
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Post by Gail on Apr 1, 2011 16:31:07 GMT -5
Thomas - best of luck, and I hope you will maybe have time to post how your training is going from time to time and then give us a report from the trial.
my trainer is not offering further classes or seminars til early summer :-(
I love studying the body language of th dogs - so hopefully that will help me some!
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Post by dobermanman on Apr 1, 2011 17:02:15 GMT -5
Hi Gail
K9 Nose Work has a pretty rigid protocol for their style of training. It is effective and "positive" with most beginner dogs. However there are a lot of videos and information on police and military explosive and drug detection dogs that is applicable to K9 Nose Work. Just don't tell them I said so ;-)
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Post by sonterra on Apr 1, 2011 17:48:34 GMT -5
Hi Gail K9 Nose Work has a pretty rigid protocol for their style of training. It is effective and "positive" with most beginner dogs. However there are a lot of videos and information on police and military explosive and drug detection dogs that is applicable to K9 Nose Work. Just don't tell them I said so ;-) Hi Thomas, I have an interest in K9 Nosework, and I think the idea is very cool and getting people on the pet level involved in a trial system is fabulous!!! However I am not entirely in agreement with their "training protocol". I am under the impression that a person MUST attend THEIR training to be able to take the ORT and therefore be able to trial. This is super disapointing to me on many levels (as there is no K9 Nosework seminars/trials or otherwise in Canada), but also that the trial system is entirely supported by one method of training and one method only, dictated by a training "school". How many people would do sch if there was only one supported method/way to train a retrieve/blind search/send away, etc? I do commend everyone that gets out and tries this, and for everyone that this training opens up training doors that were not there before. Best of luck Thomas! I know your dogs will do well! Tamara McIntosh
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Post by dobermanman on Apr 1, 2011 21:09:09 GMT -5
Hi Tamara, To the best of my knowledge, you need a NACSW scorebook for your dog and you need to be a member to do the ORT or to trial nacsw.net/home.htmlbut you don't have to take any classes or seminars. You can get the scent oil from www.allgooddogs.biz/nosework_products.html and then all you need is cotton swabs and some metal containers (I used candle tins) or plastic diabetic test strip containers. I agree with you that there is more then one way to train for K9 Nose Work. To be fair, the three founders have valuable information and experience at their seminars but IMO they are churning out "instructors" too fast that can only teach one cookie cutter technique.
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Post by mfaifer on Apr 8, 2011 13:00:59 GMT -5
Great job, Thomas. Keep on truckin.....
Melody
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Post by sonterra on Apr 13, 2011 10:55:34 GMT -5
I can only trial one dog at the June trial (unless they make it a two day trial) and there is a limited entry so they will do a drawing of eligible entrants. Hi Thomas, Why is the trial limited entry? And how come you can only trial one dog? I ask because I would have thought they would be encouraging more participation in the sport.
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