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Post by Vadim on Feb 4, 2010 0:29:33 GMT -5
What are your thoughts about table training for bite work? Is it outdated? Misunderstood? or valuable training tool? Seems many people have a negative view of it yet no two people do it the same way. I posted a link to an article on table training in the Articles section here on the forum. usadobermann.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=linksThis article includes pics and video so its a great read. It also presents another view point and technique for table training. What are your thoughts? Do you use it? What's your method? |
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Post by Jag on Feb 4, 2010 23:25:09 GMT -5
interested in responses as well.
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Post by DeDe on Feb 5, 2010 9:41:46 GMT -5
HOORAY!!!
Let me preface by saying that I LOVE all 3 of the tables I have and use here!
As posted in the article, we have the smaller, tall square table with a fixed chain. We also have a shorter, much larger, round table with a swivel on top of the steel rod to allow the dog to follow and fight the decoy around the table without being tangled. And then we have the tall, long obedience table where we teach the retrieve, articles for tracking, and other fine tuning of OB exercises.
I fully agree that the tables are like any other tool we may have in our 'bag of tricks' and CAN (and often do) get used incorrectly. I have been very fortunate over the years to have been taught a way to utilize all 3 tables without any adverse affects and my dogs learn quickly that they WIN!
The table we use most often is the shorter round table. We use it for confidence building, targeting, bitework obedience, etc. The older dogs always get excited when we bring them back to the tables.
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Post by Lianne Rae on Feb 5, 2010 21:48:20 GMT -5
will absolutely be using the table with my new pup alot of my training will be alot different than any other dog I have worked with mostly because I have learned so much from some great trainer. but yest the table will absolutely 100% be a part of my training with all my dogs not just the pup. But the pup will learn basic positions on the table as well and things like article indication etc. If you use the table correctly as explained in the article. I think it is a great training tool!
Lianne
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Post by sonterra on Feb 6, 2010 19:42:42 GMT -5
Hello all,
I don't really see any need for it. If a dog has to be put on a table to bring out drive, maybe they really shouldn't be working in protection training.
Tamara McIntosh
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Post by dobermanman on Feb 6, 2010 23:36:24 GMT -5
Hi Tamara
The table is just another training tool. It isn't "needed" per se. A good trainer can achieve the same goals on the ground, but the table makes it easier.
Also a table isn't just for building drive. It can be used to increase confidence.
You can work a dog in prey or defense and channel between the two.
You can teach a dog to turn on/turn off (TOTO) to appropriate stimulus.
I didn't need the flank strap you were using in one of the video you posted, but I made one up and I'm using it to help Flan with getting his butt in while heeling and to help get him in position on the finish. Heck, I may even use it the way you were, to help in the DOH exercise, some day :- )
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