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Post by rachel on Mar 6, 2013 14:29:06 GMT -5
Hi, My name is Rachel and I am new to the forum. I have had Dobes in the past, from rescue. I put a CD on the male (down in front) in the picture. He developed Osteosarcoma before we could show in open.  I am currently looking for a working line puppy as I will be showing in AKC obed. trials and I am considering SchH. Going out to observe a working group this weekend to find out more about the logistics and if I can work it into an already busy schedule as I understand that you cannot train on your own in SchH. Just thought I would join this site to pick up information about what to expect as far as training for this sport. I am currently a basic obedience instructor and I specialize in anti-aggression lessons. I have a background in horses also. Not a newbie with training or Dobes, just a newbie to Schutzhund. Thanks for any imput. Rachel Attachments:
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Post by dobs4ever on Apr 10, 2013 7:10:16 GMT -5
Welcome Rachel and I would check out the UDC web site for Schutzhund clubs in your area as I know there are several in the NE. Be sure you find a club that supports and understands Dobermans as you can't train them like a GSD.
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Post by rosamburg on Apr 10, 2013 9:56:04 GMT -5
Welcome Rachel and I would check out the UDC web site for Schutzhund clubs in your area as I know there are several in the NE. Be sure you find a club that supports and understands Dobermans as you can't train them like a GSD. I disagree with this sentiment. It is quite possible that a GSD and Dobermann may be trained with exactly the same training methodology. We certainly apply the exact same training methodology with my Dobermann as all the GSD's at our club. It is possible that a GSD and Dobermann may have the exact same level of correction and balance in prey and fight drive. It is also quite possible that they may have completely different needs in terms of correction threshold levels and emphasis on prey or fight in protection work. The exact same thing is true in differences between two Dobermann's or 2 GSD's. |
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Post by dobs4ever on Apr 10, 2013 17:44:47 GMT -5
There is always a dog that does not fit the mold or reaches outside it. My info comes from seminars I have attended by John Soares, Patrick O'Conner, Waine Singleton and Ken White. Every trainer I have worked with has said the (meaning most) Doberman's approach things differently and a program that was designed primarily for the GSD does not always address this. I have observed it at clubs I have attended also. .
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Post by vitopup on Apr 11, 2013 15:53:42 GMT -5
I think it depends more on the individual dog, than the breed. I've seen many GSD and mals that have to be approached differently in the training. The breed has nothing to do with it. I've never trained my Dobermann any differently than a GSD or Mal that I've worked with.
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Post by kay on Apr 13, 2013 21:56:06 GMT -5
I also disagree with the thought that a trainer has to have a lot of experience with dobermanns. A good/experienced trainer can read a dog. I often hear the sentiment that a trainer does not "know" or "understand" dobermanns, but to often there is an issue with the dog not the trainer. For the breed to do better we need to stop making excuses for our dogs and blaming the helpers and trainers (and yes, I too hate to hear anything bad about my dogs, but that is how you correct problems and get better). I will always go to the best trainer I can find to work my dogs, regardless of the breed they work usually work with. My last dog was always worked the same as the GSDs and Mals where I worked her. A good trainer can figure out how to work any breed.
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