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Post by jessyb on Jan 17, 2010 20:19:42 GMT -5
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Post by dobebob on Jan 17, 2010 22:44:04 GMT -5
Thanks for posting that- some good stuff. ...especially liked the defence of handler...
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Post by sonterra on Jan 18, 2010 10:02:44 GMT -5
I can't get the link to work, even when I copy and past it??? Tamara McIntosh
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Post by dobebob on Jan 18, 2010 15:09:29 GMT -5
I was unable to get that link to work too, but the YouTube links worked for me and led to some other vids by the same person. I was especially impressed with the youTube defence of handler vid, that I mentioned- the dog was well tested for control, and I thought performed very well. JMHO LOL
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Post by Vadim on Jan 18, 2010 15:31:47 GMT -5
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Post by sonterra on Jan 18, 2010 15:56:39 GMT -5
thanks for the sleuthing Jessy!!! You Rock!
For French ring in particular, most of the vids are posted on dailymotion and then as an after thought posted on youtube. The french are very quick to post vid if they have it, especially during the selectifs and the championships, so stay tuned, in march and April!!
Tamara McIntosh
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Post by jessyb on Jan 20, 2010 21:40:54 GMT -5
I'm glad you liked it. Tamara what did you think of Broadways escort style, pretty ideal for an upper body dog with a schutzhund background?
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Post by sonterra on Jan 20, 2010 22:44:51 GMT -5
Hi Jessy, the in-front guard is becoming the preferred method. A dog that guards between the legs is becoming a thing of the past due to incredibly fast decoys. When Jean Marc was here this summer he demonstrated how far a fast decoy can get on a dog that guards between the legs: www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ql8OYLZw7dYyou can see Tim Bartlett doing some escort retraining with riker here www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeuIPxrn9nMThe unfortunate part of a strictly upper body dog is that the higher level decoy involvement comes into play at a ring 2 level, which allows esquives and scoops. A fast decoy will easily be able to get away and hold off a strictly upper body dog. Within the first couple of protection excercises a good decoy can figure out the dogs weaknesses. A strictly upper or lower body dog will have issues at the national level or in a trial with good, fast decoys. However mondio does not allow esquives or scoops (however if the decoy sees a dog hesitate they CAN employ those methods) so it would be a much easier switch to mondio for the upper body sch dog. Tamara McIntosh
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Post by jessyb on Jan 20, 2010 23:01:37 GMT -5
What I mean is more in terms of a compromise and making the best out of it. I prefer legs in escort for sure. But I mean a dog that has been upper body it's whole life and doesn't take to legs. I've seen upper body only escorting beside the decoy/heeling beside the decoy. But then has to swing around the front or the back, leaving lots of room for taking metres.
This way in the video, of outing in front into sit sch styleand then walking backwards seems like a good compormise. And allowing less room for the decoy to steal meters compared to the side/heeling style.
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Post by fireball3 on Jan 21, 2010 20:45:52 GMT -5
I wish I could post the 10 pics in this sequence, but I seem to be able to only post 1... Mondioring decoys can take 2 steps toward the dog to esquive (no laterals on initial entry). Most dogs at last weekends trial in the 2 level were esquived (high and low biters). The 3's were experienced enough to still come in fast and take pivot shoulders/arms/legs - whatever they could get. Between the legs (from the back) is still popular in MR, however the dogs must also be able to escort from any position since the decoy will run them into objects any way they can. Between the legs in front of the decoy has always been a very bad choice for a mondio dog. Holly Attachments:
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