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Post by Bitten on Nov 2, 2010 4:25:05 GMT -5
Please publish your result ....
Jotunheim's Thyra - Negative
owner: Steen & Hanne Grøndahl
Thank's for testing and publishing the result.
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Post by DeDe on Nov 2, 2010 6:22:51 GMT -5
Catti vom haus Do'Urden - Neg
owner: DeDe Bruno
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Post by laila on Nov 2, 2010 16:39:14 GMT -5
Supreme Guardians Eleanor: Negative
(Briska's Tessie - Mezzrows Fabio)
Owner:Vivian Masternes
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Post by Bitten on Nov 3, 2010 9:00:03 GMT -5
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Post by John K. on Nov 4, 2010 10:17:46 GMT -5
How often does this list get updated? just curious because I see owners post on other sites about their dogs being negative but I don't see those dogs on this list......
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Post by DeDe on Nov 4, 2010 11:35:31 GMT -5
I believe they are updating weekly.
Don't forget, alot of owners may not be allowing their results to be posted. You do have that choice on the form.....
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Post by landgraf on Nov 8, 2010 19:55:28 GMT -5
Here is a recent total of those that have been tested as of November 6th. As of tonight we have done 318 tests—134 are positive hets and 23 homozygous. (so you are right on it--- about 49% I think) You are welcome to release this if you like but I probably will not put it on our web site until we have done 1000 since it can be a bit biased by who tests their dogs first. Wendy Schmitt www.Landgrafk9.com |
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Post by sonterra on Nov 8, 2010 22:23:49 GMT -5
Here is a recent total of those that have been tested as of November 6th. As of tonight we have done 318 tests—134 are positive hets and 23 homozygous. (so you are right on it--- about 49% I think) You are welcome to release this if you like but I probably will not put it on our web site until we have done 1000 since it can be a bit biased by who tests their dogs first. Wendy Schmitt www.Landgrafk9.comMy question is... I have heard that dogs that are occult DCM dogs, have been tested as negative. How is a person supposed to interpret these results? Tamara McIntosh |
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Post by elucas on Nov 9, 2010 9:11:23 GMT -5
Here is a recent total of those that have been tested as of November 6th. As of tonight we have done 318 tests—134 are positive hets and 23 homozygous. (so you are right on it--- about 49% I think) You are welcome to release this if you like but I probably will not put it on our web site until we have done 1000 since it can be a bit biased by who tests their dogs first. Wendy Schmitt www.Landgrafk9.comMy question is... I have heard that dogs that are occult DCM dogs, have been tested as negative. How is a person supposed to interpret these results? Tamara McIntosh There are probably more than just the one gene responsible. Therefore, dogs that are testing negative for this one, may still have a mutation in the other one. Or, they may be more than 2 genes. There could be 5 or 10 even theoretically. So, I would not JUST rely on this test. I would continue to do your normal heart monitoring exams (Holters or echos). But, as this could be a first step to increasing the lifespans of the breed, we can use it (in conjuntion with all other aspects) as a tool to make breeding decisions. That is how I am taking it at least. Erynn |
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Post by Lianne Rae on Nov 13, 2010 11:24:28 GMT -5
just got my results in for my 2 dogs my bitch lennie is clear which I suspected she would be my male marko v ferrenberg is positive hetro now what do I do with him  ? Should I neutre? I cant imagine any one ever wanting to breed to a dog that is a carrier??? If I did it would make my life easier as he is a holy little terror and I have 2 intact dominant males and intact female. Any thoughts guys? thanx lianne |
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Post by Jag on Nov 13, 2010 12:58:43 GMT -5
Lianne, Dr muers said to use the test as another breeding tool. I also believe she said that the only dogs that rewlly shouldn't be bred are +/+.
I'm sure sll the breeders on this forum know how small the gene pool is for dpbermans already, especially for working dobermans.
IMO if he's a good solid working dog, has a good temperament, with no big issues... He should be bred.
Just be more careful who you breed to regarding cardiac issues.
And he should be monitored more frequently for heart problems.
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Post by Jag on Nov 13, 2010 13:01:01 GMT -5
Sorry for the spelling I'm on my cell!
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Post by elucas on Nov 13, 2010 13:36:49 GMT -5
just got my results in for my 2 dogs my bitch lennie is clear which I suspected she would be my male marko v ferrenberg is positive hetro now what do I do with him ? Should I neutre? I cant imagine any one ever wanting to breed to a dog that is a carrier??? If I did it would make my life easier as he is a holy little terror and I have 2 intact dominant males and intact female. Any thoughts guys? thanx lianne Lianne, as of right now almost 50% of the population is positive in some way. About 45% positive het and 5% positive homo. If he were homozygous I would probably neuter, but if we remove all of the positive heterozygous out of the breeding population we will be utterly screwed. Perhaps just let negative bitches breed to him. Slowly we can try to breed out the mutation, but it isn't going to be in one or two generations. With the numbers like these it is breed suicide to cull the het positives. There are harldy any dogs to breed to now, if we removed half of them, eeek. |
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Post by sonterra on Nov 14, 2010 18:02:49 GMT -5
It seems to me as if no one, (including the Dr that announced this test, and immediately also announced the company was open for business for testing) has any real idea of what this test means.
It is by no means a diagnostic tool, it is also not a test that will predict if the dog will or will not get it. It is a piece of information that really has very little actual meaning.
I don't think this test should have any relevance on breeding the dobermann. Dobes with occult DCM testing -/- really gives this test little validity in my mind. That said, just because a dog is negative is not a reason to KEEP it in the gene pool either. If the occurance of this disease is granted by two or more genes, then they should have waiting until they had ALL the genes before they released a "test".
I do plan on getting my dog tested, but in my eyes it is not a real health test. I will still rather rely on the holter/ultrasound.
Tamara McIntosh
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Post by rasmuscm on Nov 16, 2010 16:36:44 GMT -5
Arras von Moeller Hof - negative
Quinna v Aurachgrund - negative
(all of their puppies born 9/2/2010 - negative :-))
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? Should I neutre?
